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[usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 21 May 2010, 23:08
by Hellscrag
The glut of reviews continues. In his latest reviews, UBerserker reflects on three rarities, including the compilation map pack ArchSub, the experimental Cadet Simulation Exercise and the little-known behemoth UMS Solaris.

Posted: 21 May 2010, 23:25
by Hellscrag
Whew. No more for a while, please! :P

Posted: 21 May 2010, 23:40
by Semfry
I don't know if anyone has them, but Archsub isn't the only Steve Long level set; I know there's a pack after which was heavily based on a Duke Nukem homage in setting. I thought I could recall Archsub linking right into those maps, but apparently not.

Posted: 21 May 2010, 23:54
by Hellscrag
Mman wrote:I don't know if anyone has them, but Archsub isn't the only Steve Long level set; I know there's a pack after which was heavily based on a Duke Nukem homage in setting. I thought I could recall Archsub linking right into those maps, but apparently not.


OH, I remember him now! He e-mailed me a lot back in the day. I seem to recall being confused by his approach to releases, given that he tended to release stuff one map at a time rather than in coherent packs. I don't think I ever actually played any of his stuff, as I wanted to play it as a proper map pack.

Posted: 22 May 2010, 00:17
by jackrabbit
Mman wrote:I don't know if anyone has them, but Archsub isn't the only Steve Long level set; I know there's a pack after which was heavily based on a Duke Nukem homage in setting. I thought I could recall Archsub linking right into those maps, but apparently not.


Sounds like a different set. It is possible that there did exist maps before HotFoot, but I highly doubt it.

A side note: Hellscrag, the ArchSub link is still pointing to blank (even though it says FileFront to the right). I was under the impression that you were going to directly upload the pack to UnrealSP.org. If not, I would like to ask that someone upload the ArchSub.zip to FileFront so the link can be corrected. I would have done this myself, but after a recent virus attack my computer was under, I am unable to upload to any upload sites (with the exception of imageshack). I did find a way to do bypass that.


UBerskerker wrote:He took a hundred things into consideration, and he successfully developed them all to create an interesting map.


I couldn't have said it better myself. This is truly what made UMS Solaris an experience to remember regardless of the semi-noob interiors and not-so-great lighting. Swortail really put his time into doing a variety of things in one single map that ends up becoming a strangely epic experience. Well written review and accurate to a tee, I give UMS solaris review a 9.5/10.

BTW, does anyone notice a some strage similarities in the layout between Solaris and Citadel Station (System Shock)?

Posted: 22 May 2010, 11:24
by Hellscrag
I forgot to fix the link before I uploaded. I've now pointed the link to Klan KAOS. A FileFront link would be welcome if anyone is familiar enough with the site to provide one - otherwise I'll consider uploading it direct to USP (which I only generally do for stuff that isn't available anywhere else, as I don't want to piss of my web hosts with excessive downloads).

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Posted: 23 May 2010, 22:22
by zbreaker
Hellscrag wrote:
Mman wrote:I don't know if anyone has them, but Archsub isn't the only Steve Long level set; I know there's a pack after which was heavily based on a Duke Nukem homage in setting. I thought I could recall Archsub linking right into those maps, but apparently not.


OH, I remember him now! He e-mailed me a lot back in the day. I seem to recall being confused by his approach to releases, given that he tended to release stuff one map at a time rather than in coherent packs. I don't think I ever actually played any of his stuff, as I wanted to play it as a proper map pack.


Steve Long was/is a really cool individual. It was indeed several years ago that he put out a bunch of linked though generally unrelated maps as a large "pack" of sorts. Archsub was one of the maps. The pack was his initial foray into UnrealEd. He was primarily a mapping enthusiast for Duke Nukem as mentioned and Doom. I remember much as Scrag we exchanged some emails regarding his work and he was nice enough send me a cd with his Duke & Doom stuff.

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 24 May 2010, 22:19
by UBerserker
I hope Swordtail makes a sequel to Solaris. Best new unknown author.

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 27 May 2010, 05:27
by shawnd123
UBerserker wrote:I hope Swordtail makes a sequel to Solaris. Best new unknown author.

Solaris is really good! I'm currently playing through it, and there are so many unique features that I've never seen in any other map!
Why oh why is a map like this forgotten? I've never even heard of this map until now.....

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 27 May 2010, 09:15
by UBerserker
-Shadow- wrote:Why oh why is a map like this forgotten? I've never even heard of this map until now.....


The author kept it only in his website.

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 27 May 2010, 14:07
by shawnd123
UBerserker wrote:The author kept it only in his website.


wow, so how did you find out about this map?

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:04
by UBerserker
Jackrabbit found it.

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 27 May 2010, 22:58
by salsaSkaarj
Downloaded and played ArchSub (at least until I was insta-annihilated in the fishbait level by some big revolving water mixing device (which I think must be near the end of the level).

Gameplay is on the rough side (Unreal difficulty) but not yet unfair although I regularly have to use the DP with shoot and retreat action: progress is slow but I only died by enemy hands on the first try. Second try was going good until I decided to try to swim through the propellers.
BTW, it's easy to stay on the boat, just crouch. The problem is how to get off later, it's a very sticky boat.
Up to now it's more than quite good :lol: .

I wish I had more time. Pre-summer is always a hectic period for me and with all the maps I still have to play winter will be back before I reach halfway.

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 27 May 2010, 23:26
by UBerserker
salsaSkaarj wrote:Downloaded and played ArchSub (at least until I was insta-annihilated in the fishbait level by some big revolving water mixing device (which I think must be near the end of the level).


It's just before the exit.

How many Tentacles have you already killed?

Re: [usp] [u1] Three forgotten works reviewed

Posted: 28 May 2010, 00:01
by salsaSkaarj
UBerserker wrote:
salsaSkaarj wrote:Downloaded and played ArchSub (at least until I was insta-annihilated in the fishbait level by some big revolving water mixing device (which I think must be near the end of the level).


It's just before the exit.

How many Tentacles have you already killed?

pfff, as though I count them? It starts in the first battle area - 2 tentacles, after the door 1 tentacle, get past the brute and past the corner , 1 or 2 tentacles ...etc Almost every room has tentacles - but since it's so repetitive they are less dangerous (Tentacles are great enemies for surprises but in these maps they've lost that element).
Luckily after finding the DP power-up they don't take so lnog to get rid of anymore, in the first level they became irritating because it takes 4 or 5 DP shots to kill them which soon becomes a chore.

edit : ah, I think I misunderstood your question. You are possibly implying that I was killed by a tentacle and not by the propellers. Yes, come to think of it - that could be the case. I cleared out the room (I think) but didn't really check the water (and I was low on health - 40-ish)