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What do you want

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 19:31
by Buff Skeleton
It's been a while. WHADDAYA WANT

Close to two years have gone by since the last release of anything, which is a long-ass time. A lot of cool stuff has been added, and even more has been improved. However, most of the development work has surrounded Corrupted Corpse / CA rather than the core campaign maps.

The last time I played the campaign was early this year. The fully-rebuilt Doom Arena is done and a total blast. However, I lost steam when moving on to the dark maps -- they need more thought put into them for a major revamp if they aren't going to be forever relegated to the boring transition maps they are now. I also started work on a total rebuild of Highlands of Despair, but that's a significant undertaking and I didn't get that far. I intend to complete that effort, but it will take considerable time / a large burst of inspiration to power through. Once I do, though, revitalizing Telefire would be trivial, as that map needs very little modernization.

On the flip side, Corrupted Corpse is undergoing massive improvements and is nearly complete on that front, relatively speaking. It's also changed enormously since this video was recorded. For one, that ship isn't even in the map anymore, which wound up being a good decision both for technical stability and gameplay. That ship will make appearances in other maps, though, don't worry. We put a lot of effort into a spruced up Prometheus hull, so it's not going to be wasted!

CC is the most well-developed, technically advanced, gameplay-polished and playtested EXU2 map there has ever been. It's pretty much the only thing EBM and I have been playing in coop over the past few years. It's balls-hard, but extremely fun if you appreciate squaring off against massive forces (and bringing to bear massive firepower). There are many areas to fight in and [attempt to] secure, and a variety of strategic and tactical options not found in any other map. So if you want to see some truly next-gen EXU2 gameplay at work, this would be the place to look.

Note that given historical trends, "finishing" EXU2 in the traditional sense of having a completed campaign and final version of the code base is extremely unlikely. I don't have the time to sit down and really crack out a lot of new maps at this point. On the flipside, I don't really ever see myself NOT working on EXU in one way or another. It's just not focused on a single SP campaign like it originally was -- now it's more about making whatever is the most fun, which shifts over time. So If you go with #5, know that it's more than likely not gonna happen. #1-4 are all doable, though, probably within a year at the latest.

DECISION IS YOURS

Re: What do you want

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 19:45
by jaypeezy
Definitely totally without a doubt 100% want to get my hands on the CA Gametype / Corrupted Corpse map as soon as possible. The screenies tell it all. Hell, I might even put in more time the next time around when I try to create a map that can be considered "CA-styled" after seeing what you've done with CC.

As an aside, it would be nice to have a server maybe just run that map all the time, or even CA alone. I'd consider doing that with mine. For the moment, I've tried something new by having a "custom" mod spawn waves of EXU monsters and SP-Fix deathmatch to score those frags.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 19:46
by Buff Skeleton
CA isn't actually a gametype, just a style of mapping, to clarify. It's simply EXU2 coop, but with maps that are designed to have infinite enemies and completely insane gameplay. Playing them solo, offline, is... well, not recommended.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 19:49
by jaypeezy
Oooooohhh... so, nothing really in the way of specialized actors/considerations. It really is EXU2 coop for sadists. Good to know!

EDIT: I was confused at the mention of numbered items in OP until I logged in and saw the poll :lol: well, of course, I have cast my vote for #3.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 20:11
by UBerserker
chose 3 because I want to finish the last two maps of G59 first, release it and be done with it

Re: What do you want

Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 21:09
by Sat42
#4 for me, because given my limited time for all things Unreal I will only play through Batshit Insane again once the original 16 maps at least are present in v6.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 15 Aug 2016, 18:49
by FXANBSS
I have voted for #4, because i wanted the 12-16 maps for too LONG! :x

Last time i've seen the 12-16 maps was in 5.03 version, it's strange! Looks like those maps never existed and nobody played them!

Now i feel we are back in Demo 3. :(

P.S: - LOL those CA maps, my laptop will explode, i better use my gaming PC, sadly i have ugly aim with it.
- I don't have friends, i'm forced to play alone those CA maps, there is a small problem, you need two players to trigger 1 thing.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 16 Aug 2016, 02:09
by evilgrins
What I want isn't listed up there.

I want a woman who will love me and not go insane from what a frustratingly annoying goofball I am.

Hey, you asked!

Re: What do you want

Posted: 16 Aug 2016, 20:54
by medor
evilgrins wrote:What I want isn't listed up there.

I want a woman who will love me and not go insane from what a frustratingly annoying goofball I am.

Hey, you asked!



SO You search for a Skaarj female ?

Re: What do you want

Posted: 17 Aug 2016, 01:58
by MrLoathsome
return of the Flare Crate.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 18:33
by jaypeezy
MrLoathsome wrote:return of the Flare Crate.


Lol this may be off topic at this point but I really liked the flare crate, in all its buggy/fuck up glory. Having that back (in an improved form?) would be awesome, but I'm sure that's already on Waff's big list of things.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 03:09
by evilgrins
medor wrote:
evilgrins wrote:I want a woman who will love me and not go insane from what a frustratingly annoying goofball I am.

SO You search for a Skaarj female?

No, because if she got annoyed with me she'd kill me and then eat me.

Re: What do you want

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 08:30
by medor
It's not worth the risk :lol:

Re: What do you want

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 22:56
by Sat42
medor wrote:
evilgrins wrote:What I want isn't listed up there.

I want a woman who will love me and not go insane from what a frustratingly annoying goofball I am.

Hey, you asked!



SO You search for a Skaarj female ?



Gotta love evilgrins, thanks for the giggles :lol:

Re: What do you want

Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 07:31
by MrLoathsome
jaypeezy wrote:
MrLoathsome wrote:return of the Flare Crate.


Lol this may be off topic at this point but I really liked the flare crate, in all its buggy/fuck up glory. Having that back (in an improved form?) would be awesome, but I'm sure that's already on Waff's big list of things.


It was indeed awesome, even on maps us coop players are supposed to skip. (But we never do.....)
If that is low on Waff's big list, and he hasn't gotten to it yet, I may look into repairing those if I can.
Been working on some similar code for a few mutators of mine, and they are just about done.

Back On Topic.

As the guy who will be attempting to get the next release all working online in one fell swoop, I am
really partial to Option #4. (I think.... Don't like option #5 at all.)
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@JayPeezy - Back off topic. I like what you have done to your server. Seems to be working great.
How do the server logs look? Should that gametype be familiar to me?